Virginia Tech 枪击事件
昨晚临睡觉前看到的新闻。
今天白天去看的时候发现全世界各大网站(貌似除了CNN)全都说是疑犯是在上海拿到的签证,是亚裔,疑似Chinese……。中国的网站,新浪,搜狐,中新,等等,都跟着造谣说是中国人,一个都没跑了。新浪还在主页上highlight了……全然不顾那条谣传来自个八卦小报Chicago Sun Times的专栏记者之手(那厮叫Michael Sneed,mcooke@suntimes.com 嗯,大家记住)。
另一方面,Youtube上的录像 中也包含了大量辱骂中国人的言论,要多难听有多难听(可惜我没留下截图),全留着。
结果事情被证实是个南韩蛮子干的。各大网站马上开始换新闻。而Youtube立刻把最近九个小时的Comments全给删除了。
结论:
1.全球化了,信息上了高速了,新闻操守也都不要了。其他国家的报道我不说了,中国强大了,被人敌视一下,妖魔化一下也是正常的。但中国的媒体也跟着“妖魔化”国人,暴露了这帮娱记的素质——唯恐天下不乱。
2.Youtube是反中国的。怀疑是中国人的时候留着诋毁中国人的留言,帮着传播中国妖魔论;发现摆乌龙的时候马上删除所有证据。这厮要是在中国,绝对是中宣部的得力干将。
另一,转一篇来自Virginia Tech 计算机系教授的email,未经证实:
Dear all,
I would like to share with you the oustanding act of bravery that took place today in Norris Hall. Without this wonderful courage the list of victims would
have been longer with several Computer Science students. This is the story I 've learned from XX and XX. XX Cheng, our CS Ph.D. student, was substitute-teaching CS 4414 in 205 Norris Hall this morning. Around 9:45 very loud noises were heard from the corridor. XX and one student went outside to see what was happening. What they saw was a young men with a gun exiting a classroom. As soon as he saw them he pointed the gun to them (and shot at them but missed). XX and the student ran quickly back in the classroom and closed the door after them; XX told the students to lay down; three men from the classroom rushed to the door and held it closed. The killer tried several times to force-enter the 205 classroom. He then shot two bullets through the door inside the classroom.
Fortunately these bullets did not hit anybody inside. The killer gave up and went on to other classrooms ...
另二,转第二个笑话,没有调查就没发言权,嗯。希望阮次山同学好好记住。(美国的除了CNN,还有那个被冤枉的江同学提到的少数两个媒体外,其他都都跟风报道了;此外,日本,韩国的也都报道了疑似中国人)
凤凰卫视评论员阮次山认为,之前报道说凶手是中国人,还说身高,以及此人是上海同济大学毕业生,这应该是《芝加哥太阳报》得到的不实的独家消息;这个消息 美国的媒体没有跟进,没有炒作这个事情,华文媒体跟进的比较多,不过,消息并没有得到进一步证实;这反映了媒体对消息的确认是不成熟的。
Update: Chinese shooter rumor: Shame on the Chicago Sun-Time
Post by Rebecca @ 19/04/2007

At 2007.04.18 02:03, heroes 4 guys said:
发信人: lorry (老瑞),
信区: Virginia
标 题: From Haiyan Cheng (Fw)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 17 13:45:56 2007), 站内
It was April 16 2007,a cold and windy morning for Blacksburg. I have class to teach at 9:05 AM. It is “CS4414-Issues in scientific computing”, a class for senior student in CS and Math students. Whenever my advisor went to conference, I would take over the lecture. I went to my office in Torgerson Hall at 8:50, checked email, left my cell phone charging, (last Friday there was the bomb threat that made us evacuated immediately, that time I remembered to take my cell phone and laptop, but forgot the charger) and left laptop in the office and went to Norris Hall to teach. One of my colleagues asked earlier where is my classroom. I told him Norris 204 or 205 (the first classroom on the left hand side at the second floor), I’m not sure. So the first thing I went to the second floor, Norris hall, is to check my room number. It is indeed 205, 204 is across the hall, I took a quick look at the classroom, about 20 students were sitting there, an old professor with white hair was taking his teaching material out of his briefcase.
At 9:00 am, I went into the classroom, everything was as usual, the window opened a little bit, we can feel the breeze. I started the “Numerical solution of ODE” lecture. I covered analytical solution, discussion on existence and uniqueness, there was about 15 minutes left till the end of the lecture, it was about 9:40. Several loud “Band, Bang, Bang”came from outside of the classroom. They were really loud. I was not sure where it came from, but it seemed very close to us. We all thought it was some kind of construction. Then it stopped for 5-10 sec. I was about to start another topic on stability analysis. Then the sound came again. Teresa, the female student sitting close to the door stood up and went to check. I followed her , with the lecture note still in my hand. We were standing at the door, sticking our heads out and checking what happened. The sound came from room 208, the room across the hall, to the left of our classroom. The door is closed. I gazed at that door for 2 seconds. Then the door opened, a guy walked out, I only saw him 1 sec, but the most shocking thing is that he’s holding a black handgun. He wears black, his face is square (roundish). Both I and Teresa came back in immediately, the gun shot right besides our ear. My ear is hurting by the loud sound. The first thing wehe hall, I took a quick look at the classroom, about 20 students were sitting there, an old professor with white hair was taking his teaching material out of his briefcase.
At 9:00 am, I went into the classroom, everything was as usual, the window opened a little bit, we can feel the breeze. I started the “Numerical solution of ODE” lecture. I covered analytical solution, discussion on existence and uniqueness, there was about 15 minutes left till the end of the lecture, it was about 9:40. Several loud “Band, Bang, Bang”came from outside of the classroom. They were really loud. I was not sure where it came from, but it seemed very close to us. We all thought it was some kind of construction. Then it stopped for 5-10 sec. I was about to start another topic on stability analysis. Then the sound came again. Teresa, the female student sitting close to the door stood up and went to check. I followed her , with the lecture note still in my hand. We were standing at the door, sticking our heads out and checking what happened. The sound came from room 208, the room across the hall, to the left of our classroom. The door is closed. I gazed at that door for 2 seconds. Then the door opened, a guy walked out, I only saw him 1 sec, but the most shocking thing is that he’s holding a black handgun. He wears black, his face is square (roundish). Both I and Teresa came back in immediately, the gun shot right besides our ear. My ear is hurting by the loud sound. The first thing we came back in the classroom is telling everyone down, an Indian student said, let’s block the door with table, so he can’t get in. 4 guys in my class moved the big table next to the podium and blocked the door. (There’s no window and no lock on the door. When there’s lecture going on, usually we left the classroom door wide open.) While we were doing this, the gun shot keeps firing outside of the classroom. I and another girl were behind the podium. The other 2 girls were at the back of the classroom. 4 guys are lying on the ground in front, pushing against the desk legs. After about 1 minute shooting in the hallway, the gunman approaches our classroom. He was trying to open the door, but those students push really hard, then he began to shoot the door. The bullets came through the door, woodchips and metal pieces are everywhere. One bullet even hit the podium. Two of my students at the back underneath the desk were calling 911 with their cell phones, and talking to the police, they told the police there were 11 people in classroom 205, the gunman is still outside shooting. After the gunman tried several times, he gave up and began to shot somewhere else. The gun shot keeps going, “Bang, Bang, Bang”, all I can do is knee down there and pray to God “Please stop him, please stop the gun fire, please…” Then we heard the police car siren from outside. One student asked that if we should jump out of the window. It’s only the second floor. But we all thought that we should stay here, until things are clear outside.
The gun shot sounds further and further. But still not stop. Before we went out to check, we already heard about 20, after we came in, we heard about 30 -40, or even more than that. It was terrible. We waited and waited….We heard several unclear shout from outside “show me your hand, show me your hand” etc…but we are not sure if that were police or not. Until finally there was the knock at the door. Those guys made sure they were police, and we opened the door. The police had a gun in his hand, asking us all hands up , and go to the back of the classroom. He asked if anybody got injured. We told him no, then he asked us to sit down, keep calm. Then he was about to leave. One student asked him to close the door, since we thought they might still be searching the gunman. He said we were safe, and called another police officer to come at the door, 1 minute later, the police officer told us to stand in a line and run after him, leave our personal stuff behind. I was standing close to the podium, so I quickly grabbed my key and coat, running with the police. I saw the clip on the floor right outside of our classroom. We try not to step on the blood and run quick. I didn’t even look at the other classroom, but Lisa running right behind me started to cry , I turned around, held her hand, we run together out of the Norris hall and into the Randolph Hall, while still shocking, the first thing I did is borrowed a laptop from another student and sent an email to my husband and our research group, telling them I was safe.
I am so proud of all my students, they did a great job. We did the right things to save our lives. I am so sorry about those students and professors, I can’t believe 1 hour ago, I saw them all sitting in the classroom.
So far, my cell phone and laptop are still in my office in Torgerson hall, since the building is closed, I’m almost disconnected from the outside world. All I did is using my neighbor’s Internet to reply some messages that concerned about my safety. It was a terrible tragedy for Virginia Tech, for Blacksburg. Please pray for those families that lost of their loved ones. Let’s all cherish every minute of our life.
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At 2007.04.18 12:45, SUN said:
3ks for update
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At 2007.04.18 11:24, 新鮮人 said:
中國強大了為何會被人敵視,
除了是恐怕中國會影響國際政局外,
還有會是什麼呢?
為什麼在不知情下不估計是日本人,韓國人呢?
這點我們要細心留意一吓!
我不相信只是因為懼怕中國強大而己!
youtube見証實了是韓國人後,把那些煽動仇恨的留言刪除亦是無可厚非的,
因為留下來只會做作没完没了的吵鬧吧!
至於傳媒操守着實愈來愈差了,
只求賣紙不理真偽,
尤其是國內一些傳媒,
不理消息的真確性便無限上線,
這是中國傳媒的悲哀!
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At 2007.04.18 12:44, SUN said:
主要是芝加哥那个小报发的“独家报道”说是在中国拿的签证,不过人家用的词都是很小心,"the source said ", "speculated"
虽然米国的媒体很不怎么d,但相比之下,中文媒体更加生猛,直接就来“初步证实”是中国人(后来这些新闻都被删了)。昨天无聊,给新浪值班的打了电话,接线员很谦虚的认错了,我都不好意思再骂他们了。
youtube的倾向性很明显,反正人家的地盘,咱也没办法。。。
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At 2007.04.18 16:44, 新鮮人 said:
問題就是在這裏了,
為什麼Chicago Sun Times見到是黃皮膚的人就說是中國人呢?
中國人給人家的感覺真是那麼差?
定亦是某一兩個記者的偏見呢?
我問這些問題是因為見到我國不少人在人家的地方都不守別人的習慣和規距,
所以才會有不少人對中國人有敵視的情緒,
當然不是所以中國人都國外都是這樣,
但是就如只要有一粒老鼠糞掉落米粥去了,
一定要把全碗倒去一樣,
就算只是少數人才會破壞整個民族在人家心目中的評分了!
所以才會有這樣的發問而已!
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At 2007.04.18 16:59, SUN said:
多方面因素造成:自身素质,美国传媒的propaganda,种族歧视,政治因素
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At 2007.04.18 13:38, 聞.見.思.錄 » 槍擊.Faux Pas said:
[...] hell out of China 海市蜃樓:Bloodbath in Virginia 血洗弗吉尼亚 徘徊在玻璃之城:Virginia Tech槍擊事件 [...]
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At 2007.04.18 14:32, SUN said:
1.美国媒体对Virginia Tech的报道。
-CNN比较尊重事实,从事发当天到第二天新闻发布会之前,一直坚持Asian male的说法
,而且整体报道的重点不在枪手,而是受害学生和社会 群体的心理状况,包括美国和
维吉尼亚州的持枪法规等。
-Fox和ABC抓不到第一手材料,为争夺收视率,拼命猜测枪手身份,其实他们不care到
底是谁,只要公众看他们的channel而不是别家的报道就好。
-三流媒体,类似Chicago Suntimes,虽然曾获得八次普利策新闻奖,也不免采用各种
小道消息,说是中国人等等。但大家注意Michael Sneed的报道里措辞是很巧妙严谨的
,都是"a source said","it is speculated",所以公众很难就这种未经确实的报道去
起诉媒体。
-国内媒体,我都不忍心说,此事暴露了新浪、搜狐等对美国及其他国际大事报道的消
息渠道,美国随便什么报纸的新闻,拿来翻译了事,尤其是措辞不严谨,不注明消息来
源,把原文中的猜测翻译成了事实和新闻头条。
2.美国宪法对新闻媒体的保护-利弊兼有
好处是至少美国新闻媒体可以在不妨碍司法进程的前提下随便报道,不像中国一有类似
事就封锁消息渠道,统一口径。坏处是媒体的报道可能给未擒获犯罪分子提供当前线索
,影响司法调查,或造成社会公众的猜测(但美国法律assume公众有自己的判断力,报
纸又没有逼着你相信他们)。
First Amendment says, in part, that "Congress shall make no law… abridging
the freedom of speech, or of the press…" That protection from control by
the federal government meant that anyone --- rich or poor, and regardless of
political or religiou***eliefs --- could generally publish whatever he or she
wished
3.中国留学生如何看待美国媒体
首先不要受中国国内十几年教育的影响,以为美国媒体代表国家的声音或者能代表公正
(虽然中国多数商业媒体也不能,但中国至少有《人民日报》和新华网这种官方媒体)
。任何一家美国媒体的消息都有可能是不确定的,要仔细读英文字里行间的限制词,以
免轻听轻信。
其次,可以充分利用美国媒体的自由,写信打电话等等,注意可以抨击政府,但是不可
以攻击个人。比如上述媒体提到的其他枪手嫌疑犯,如果指名道姓且报道不属实,当事
人可以去起诉媒体;但如果只说是华裔,就很难去起诉,顶多是社会团体给以**要求
道歉等等。
最后一句和新闻媒体无关,从人种看,韩国人也是黄种人,都是亚洲留学生,在白种人
眼里都差不多;从地缘看,韩国与中国比邻,大家都是邻居,所以中国留学生不要幸灾
乐祸,尤其在韩国同学面前不能说三道四,在美国同学面前也不要说韩国人的坏话,大
家都是亚洲人。
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At 2007.04.18 21:34, 周书 said:
我对Chicago Suntimes还是蛮有感情的说,拜托人家也是大报啊。人家说很清楚地指出这是未经证实的消息,有什么不对的?我要是媒体,我要是有线人,我也会这么做的。
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At 2007.04.19 02:42, SUN said:
我也没说她不对啊
,新闻自由的必然产物,没办法。至于MIT上说让她道歉什么的,更加不可能了,人把那篇专稿都删了。何况用词恰到好处,谁能拿她开刀?
不过我觉得也没必要让她道歉了。她就算以后再发首发,其他媒体转的时候也都会加上个若干个限制词,然后……权当笑话了。即时新闻就这样,胜者王,败者寇。
另:还觉得这次事件很好的演示了一个效应,原谅我忘了名字,简单的说就是当许多人一起处理一件事情时,大家的标准都会降低,错误率增加。
就这次的事情,我不觉得其他媒体没拿到料,只是之前其他媒体也许都在寻求进一步确认,以求可靠准确。但被那个女记者捅出来,且陆续有媒体跟进后,剩下媒体的标准就马上降低了,因为这时再他们看来,责任已经转嫁到那个专栏记者以及她的那个永远无法确认的source身上了,再不跟进,损失的就是收视率了。
不过最后演化到了部分媒体的“初步证实”,我实在无语,只能说诸多媒体给我们示范了什么叫做“以讹传讹”。
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At 2007.04.18 22:42, Jun said:
那个人其实连Korean Guy都不大算,因为是已经拿了绿卡的小本,我估计是ABK都完全有可能。而且其实那个名字一看就知道不是中国人了,真是气愤。不过不管如何,我觉得这个事情绝对对International Student是很不好的影响。而且,死去的人何其无辜,唉。
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At 2007.04.19 02:44, SUN said:
我继续八卦下
……
是韩国出生,92年移民米国,拿美国绿卡,韩国护照的韩国人。
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At 2007.04.18 23:29, Jun said:
愈发强烈的鄙视Sina!
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At 2007.04.20 00:56, hero said:
http://jamesfallows.com/test/2007/04/18/sun-times-vs-china-update-re-va-tech-shooting/
Amending information in real time is a virtue of the web. Covering up one’s tracks is not.
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